|  |  | 155 |  | 
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MR. X:  | 
Obviously. | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
Okay, because he  | 
| 
MR. X:  | 
Right. | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
If an element in  | 
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MR. X:  | 
Okay. | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
I am getting some  | 
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MS. X:  | 
Yes. | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
If he didn’t mind  | 
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MS. X:  | 
No crime. | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
Okay, okay. Does  | 
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MR. DENIS DE VLAMING:  | 
It has to be | 
|  |  | 155 |  |